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Understanding Reasoning from Pretraining to Post-Training

arXiv cs.LG LLMs & Foundation Models Jingyan Shen, Ang Li, Salman Rahman, Yifan Sun, Micah Goldblum, Matus Telgarsky, Pavel Izmailov 2026-07-17

TL;DR - A controlled study using chess (and later math) as a testbed to disentangle how pretraining choices shape the returns to RL post-training in LLMs, showing pretraining loss predicts post-RL reasoning performance. It matters because it quantifies the often-ignored pretraining→RL interface that drives reasoning gains.

  • Trains LLMs (5M–1B params) on human chess games, applies SFT on synthetic reasoning traces, then RL on chess puzzles with verifiable rewards—mirroring the standard LLM pipeline in a controlled setting.
  • Post-RL performance at a given RL compute level is well-predicted by pretraining loss, and the slope of RL reward curves improves roughly linearly with pretraining tokens.
  • RL doesn't merely sharpen the SFT policy: on easy puzzles it amplifies already-preferred correct moves, while on hard puzzles it surfaces correct moves nearly absent under SFT.
  • Findings transfer beyond chess—a 1B model trained on math-domain text shows the same pattern: longer-pretrained checkpoints reach higher post-RL performance and improve faster under RL.

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